Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
From dutton@humnet.ucla.edu Fri Jun 18 10:44:41 2004
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 08:23:26 -0700
From: George Dutton <dutton@humnet.ucla.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
Dear List,
John Whitmore, Jayne Werner, and I are undertaking a project for Columbia University Press entitled “Sources of Vietnamese Tradition”, and would like to solicit feedback from VSG members. This undertaking is part of an existing series that has already published volumes on sources of Chinese, Japanese, Korean, and Indian traditions. We have so far compiled a preliminary list of sources (see below), which we have tentatively organized along both temporal and thematic lines. We have attempted in this listing to include materials reflecting multiple aspects of Vietnamese social, political, cultural, geographical, economic, and military heritages, always, however, sticking to Vietnamese materials (somewhat loosely defined for the first millenium of the Common Era). Obviously much has been left out of this list, for we are limited to two volumes totalling approximately 400-500 pages. We would welcome comments, suggestions and criticisms from VSG list members about our current selection of documents, and particularly ideas for crucially important items that we may have excluded. Once we have completed the final list, we will undertake what will probably be a multi-year project to carry out translations of these materials. We hope that the completed volumes will serve as a basic resource for teaching about Vietnamese history and society, finally making available a range of primary materials that can be used in the classroom.
Thank you for looking this over, and we look forward to your suggestions and input.
George Dutton
Assistant Professor
UCLA Department of Asian Languages and Cultures
Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
I. Origins and Possibilities
1. The Land
a) Passages from SKC, CL, & VDULT
2. Society and Culture
a) Passages from CL, SKC, SM, VDULT, CTS
3. Religion/Philosophy
a) Passages from SKC, Mou Tzu, SS, CL, VDULT
b) [Search for passages on Buddhism and indigenous cults]
4. Governance
a) Jen Yen, 1st century CE
b) Shi Xie, 2nd-3rd centuries CE (SKC, TT, VSL)
c) Tang (CTS)
d) Phung Hung (VDULT)
5. Economics and Trade
a) Passages from Huai Nan Tzu, CL, SKC, CS, NCS, CTS, TCTC
6. Cultural Relations
a) Chams, Tai, others (CTS, CL)
b) [Search for passages on dealing with other local ethnic groups]
II. The Southeast Asian Era (Ly and Tran Dynasties)
1. The Land
a) Hoa-lu (TT)
b) Ly Thai-to’s statement on Thanglong (Hanoi) 1011 (TT)
c) Ly Thuong Kiet’s poem of 1077
d) Naturalistic poetry of the 13th century
e) Selection from the Linh Nam Trich Quai (late 14th century)
2. Society and Culture
a) Selections from TT, VDULT, LNTQ
3. Religion/Philosophy
a) 10th century temple inscription (Ha Van Tan)
b) Passage from Bao Cuc Truyen (VDULT)
c) 12th century inscription (Keith Taylor)
d) Early Tran Buddhist writings.
e) Passages from VDULT (early 14th century)
f) Passages from Thien Uyen Tap Anh (mid-14th century)
g) Tran Minh-tong’s Buddhist writings (first half 14th century)
h) Temple inscription 1342
i) Selections from LNTQ
4. Governance
a) Early Ly government 11th century (TT)
b) The Scholars’ Option 1070s-1080s (TT, Phan Huy Chu)
c) 12th century inscription (Keith Taylor)
d) Selections from Le Van Huu, late 13th century (TT)
e) Tran Hung-dao late 13th century
f) Selections from Viet Su Luoc (late 14th century)
g) Ho Quy Ly’s government ca. 1400 (TT, NOML)
5. Economics and Trade
a) Selections from the TT
6. Cultural Relations
a) Selections from the TT – 11th century marriages with other groups, Chams, 1384 discussion of different neighboring groups
III. The Confucian Era (Le and Mac Dynasties)
1. The Land
a) Nguyen Trai’s Binh Ngo Dai Cao 1428 (TT)
b) Statement from Le Thanh-tong (2nd half 15th century)
c) Selection from O Chau Can Luc (Mac, mid-16th century)
2. Society and Culture
a) Selections from the Le Code (Quoc Trieu Hinh Luat), especially 1449
b) Selections from Nguyen Du, Truyen Ky Man Luc (16th century)
3. Religion/Philosophy
a) Le Thanh-tong on Confucianism
b) Ngo Si Lien comment on late 14th century thought (TT)
c) New Generation of Scholars, late 15th century (TNDHT)
d) Buddhist tales from 15th century (TT, DVTS)
e) Nguyen Van Chat (late 15th century edition of VDULT)
f) Mac era temple inscriptions (mid-16th century)
g) Nguyen Binh Khiem, late 16th century
4. Governance
a) Nguyen Trai’s writings (Uc Trai Tap) (early 15th century)
b) Edicts of Queen Mother/Regent (mid-15th century) (TT)
c) Selection from Record of the Restoration (1460s)
d) Le Thanh-tong’s government (Le Trieu Quan Che)
e) Ngo Si Lien’s commentary (TT) (late 15th century)
f) New generation of scholars (TNDHT) (late 15th century)
g) Examination inscriptions (late 15th-early 16th centuries)
h) Writings of Vu Quynh (early 16th century)(TT, VDULT)
5. Economics and Trade
a) Selections from TT, including importance of cash (1430s), markets, activities of officials (late 15th century), agriculture
b) Le Code on land and agriculture
c) Aspect of the large international ceramics trade
6. Cultural Relations
a) Nguyen Trai’s Geography (1430s)
b) Le Thanh-tong edicts on Chams, Laos (TT, TNDHT)
c) Lao, Thai, Khmer relations
IV. The Era of Trinh-Nguyen Division (and Tay Son era)
1. The Land
a) Nguyen Hoang deathbed advice to son (DNTL, 1613)
b) Trinh Trang demanding Nguyen tax payments (1627)
c) Le Quy Don survey of 17th century events in Nguyen south
d) Trinh Can decree to peoples of Thuan/Quang re. Trinh-Nguyen dispute (1672)
e) Ngo Thì Si survey of changing VNese geography (1760s/1770s)
2. Society and Culture
a) Trinh Cuong edict re. village customs/behavior (1720)
b) Hoang Quang, excerpts from “Hoai Nam Cuc” (1777)
c) Pham Thai and Nguyen Huy Luong; poems on “West Lake” (1800)
d) Ho Xuan Huong poems (late 18th C/early 19th C)
i. “On Sharing a Husband”
ii. “The Paper Fan”
iii. “Mocking a Monk”
e) Pham Dinh Ho, excerpts from VTTB, on aspects of culture (1790s)
(eg. marriage, clothing, music)
f) Le Quy Don, selections from Phu Bien Tap Luc re. southern society/wealth.
3. Religion/Philosophy
a) Ngo Thi Nham, intro to Truc Lam Dai Vien Giac Thanh (late 1790s)
b) Da Shan on Nguyen Buddhism in the Hai Wai Ji Shi (1694-95)
c) Le Quy Don, selections re. “Ly” and “Khi” in his Van Dai Loai Ngu (1770s)
d) Pham Dinh Ho, on “Ritual for Venerating Heaven” in VTTB (1790s)
4. Governance
a) Hoang Dinh Stele Inscription on Selecting Officials (1613)
b) Trinh Tac on Government Structures (1674)
c) Bùi Si Tiem Memorial on Government Reform (1731)
d) Nguyen Phuc Khoat edict on changing clothing styles (1755)
e) Bui Duong Lich, discussion of civil service examinations in Le Quy Dat Su (1774)
f) Ngo Thi Nham letter to Ninh Ton re. loyalty (late 1780s/early 1790s)
5. Economics and Trade
a) Trinh Cuong edicts re. taxes on salt and other commodities (1731-32)
b) Nguyen Cu Trinh memorial describing economic crisis (1751)
c) Ngo The Lan memorial regarding zinc coinage crisis (1771)
d) Le Quy Don description of Nguyen overseas trade in PBTL (1776)
e) Quang Trung “Edict Encouraging Agriculture” (1790/91)
f) Nguyen Thiep memorial describing economic crisis in Nghe An (1791)
g) Quang Trung letter to Portuguese at Macao re. trade (1792)
h) Nguyen Anh letter to Portuguese at Goa re. trade/military ties (1790s)
6. Political Transitions
a) Nguyen Phúc Khoat declaration of Nguyen autonomy (1744)
b) Le Duy Mat Proclamation of rebellion (1764)
c) Nguyen Nhac memorial to the Trinh re. their alliance (1776)
d) Nguyen Huu Chinh, decree to northern populations re. Tay Son advance (1786)
e) Quang Trung Edict on ascending the throne (1788)
f) Excerpts from the Hoang Le Nhat Thong Chi (1770s-1790s)
VI. The Nguyen Dynasty
1. The Land
a) Gia Long on the naming of the country as “Viet Nam” (1802-4)
b) Pham Dinh Ho essay on VNese geography in VTTB (early 19th C)
c) Trinh Hoai Duc on Gia Dinh geography/climate from Gia Dinh Thanh Thong Chi (1820)
d) Phan Huy Chu on Hanoi geography from Hoang Viet Dia Du Chi (1820s)
e) Minh Menh decree on naming the country Dai Nam (1839)
f) Dai Nam Nhat Thong Chi on the geography/history of Phu Xuan/Hue (1870s)
2. Society and Culture
a) Nguyen Du, “Van Te Thap Loai Chung Sinh” (post mortem on the TS wars) (1810s)
b) Trinh Hoai Duc on Gia Dinh people and culture from Gia Dinh Thanh Thong Chi (1820)
c) Truong Vinh Ky on northern customs/culture in Truyen Di Bac Ky (1876)
3. Religion
a) Minh Menh anti-Christian edicts (1830s)
b) Tu Duc anti-Christian edicts (1851; 1860)
c) Gia Long edict outlining propriety and ritual (1804) [point 5 covers all aspects of worship, touching on spirits, Buddhism, and Christianity (and other foreign religions)
d) Excerpts from DNNTC re. Buddhism and Buddhist sites.
4. Governance and Political Crisis
a) Phan Huy Chu, introduction to LTHCLC (1821)
b) Minh Mang’s 10 Moral Precepts (1834)
c) Nguyen Truong To’s memorials re. reform (“Eight Propositions for Warding Off The Dangers That Lie Ahead”)
d) Hoang Dieu memorial re. his defeat by French in the north (1882)
e) Commentary on the Fate of the Le Dynasty in the Cuong Muc (1882)
f) Hoang Cao Khai and Phan Thanh Giang – family vs country (1894)
5. Economics and Trade
a) Phan Huy Chu on ideals of taxation/revenue extraction from LTHCLC (1821)
b) Phan Huy Chu on 18th century taxation of non-agricultural goods from LTHCLC (1821)
c) Minh Mang edicts on equal fields system and land reform efforts (1839-1840)
d) Excerpts from Dai Nam Thuc Luc re. events leading to 1862 Treaty w/France.
e) Excerpts from Gia Dinh Thanh Thong Chi re. foreign trade in Saigon
6. Ethnic and Cultural Relations
a) Minh Menh edicts re. upland groups in Minh Menh Chinh Yeu (1820s-1830s)
b) Khmer: excerpts from Nguyen Van Sieu’s Dai Viet Dia Du (1860s)
c) Chinese: excerpts from poem by Luu Tinh (Chinese Merchant, 1830s)
d) Chams: excerpt from Po Dharma’s Le Panduranga
e) Excerpts from the DNNTC re. ethnic groups
VII. The Colonial Era
1. The Land
a) Hoang Dieu memorial re his defeat by French in the north (1882)
b) Can Vuong Edict (1885)
c)Hoang Cao Khai and Phan Thanh Giang – family vs country
d) Phan Boi Chau –“Viet Vong Quoc Su” – History of VN’s Loss of Independence
2. Response to the French: Armed resistance vs. reformism and collaboration
a) Phan Boi Chau – “Letter from Abroad” first use of dong bao (?)
b) Dong Kinh Nghia Thuc – Go East movement, new learning, use of terms such as dong tam, dai dong, “soul of the nation,” “fatherland,” “people’s rights,”etc.
c) Phan Chu Trinh, “Letter to G.G. Beau,” l907
d) Nguyen An Ninh, “The Idea of Vietnam’s Youth,” l923 – sets out challenges for his generation of youth, including the idea of Vietnamese “soul” (La Cloche Felee)
and/or
“France in Indochina” – reviews positives and negatives about cooperating with the French (La Cloche Felee)
e) Ho Chi Minh, selection from Duong Kach Menh, Canton, l925 or l926.
f) Tran Phu, Political Theses of the ICP or ICP First Party Program, l930
2. Society and Culture (xa hoi comes from the Japanese ca l860)
a) Discussion re Chu Han or quoc ngu l906/l908.
b) Pham Quynh vs Ngo Duc Ke: debate on language, Kim Van Kieu, and the Vietnamese “soul”, 1924
c) Prose of l930s, selection
i. Nguyen Cong Hoan, Dead End, l938 OR
ii. Hoang Dao, Mud and Stagnant Water, l938 OR
iii. Ngo Tat To, When the Light Goes Out, l939 OR
iv. Nam Cao, Chi Pheo, l94l
d) Confucianism
i. Tran Trong Kim on Confucianism, l932, l943
ii. Dao Duy Anh, selection from An Outline of Vietnamese Culture (What is the meaning of all this change we are undergoing?)
3. Religion
a) Cao Dai, l926, Spirit-message on the goals and program of the Cao Dai religion in synthesizing world religions
b) Buddhism: Reform movement of the l930s. Selections from debates on the existence of God, the existence of the immortal soul, the existence of heaven and hell, and social engagement.
c) Hoa Hao: Religious text from Huynh Phu So, l940-l944
4. Economics
a) Texts reflecting social problems generated by the growing commercialization of the economy, the concentration of land in the hands of landlords and the French, the pauperization of the peasantry, the transformation of southern Vietnam into an export economy and the rice bowl of Asia and; the catastrophe of the Great Depression: tax revolts and the Nghe-An Ha Tinh uprisings.
VIII. The Era of Independence
1. The Land
a) Ho Chi Minh’s letter to compatriots about the south, with “nothing is more precious than independence and freedom” statement, l958? and/or Ho Chi Minh on dai doan ket (great solidarity or unity)
2. Foreign Conflicts
a) Vo Nguyen Giap on Dien Bien Phu
b) U.S. War –selection from Tran Van Tra on a Taoist reading of the Tet Offensive
3. Political Transitions
a) DRV: Declaration of Independence, 1945
b) The separate south: Ngo Dinh Diem, 1960
c) Reunification: decree on reunification, l976
d) Doi Moi: Tran Do’s letter to cadres discussing multipartyism, l994 (?)
4. Society and Culture
a. Truong Chinh “Marxism and Vietnamese Culture,” l948
b. Nhan Van Giai Pham affair Tran Dan, Nguoi nguoi lop lop, selection, l955 ?
c. Law on Marriage and the Family, l959
d. Social changes in the south as a result of the American War : Nguyen Thi Thap from her memoirs on changes in the south, l976
e. Social changes under doi moi – Nguyen Huy Thiep’s “The General Retires” or Pham Thi Hoai, “The Saigon Tailor Shop”
5. Religion
a. Buddhism -- Quang An pagoda l960s, selection from Thich Nhat Hanh, Lotus in a Sea of Fire
b. Catholicism – possibly Archbishop Nguyen Binh’s statement re the new Communist govt in the South in l976 urging reconciliation with new regime
6. Economics and Trade
a. 6th Plenum, 1986
b. l0th Resolution on decollectivizing the land
7. Cultural and International Relations
a. Transition in Vietnamese foreign policy from reliance on the Eastern Bloc to multilaterialism and insertion into ASEAN
b. Vietnamese diaspora, prose or poetry selection
Abbreviations:
PBTL – Phu Bien Tap Luc
CL – An Nam Chi Luoc (V)
CS – Chin Shu (C)
CTS – Chiu T’ang Shu (C)
DVTS – Dai Viet Thong Su (V)
DNNTC – Dai Nam Nhat Thong Chi
LTHCLC – Lich Trieu Hien Chuong Loai Chi
NCS – Nan Ch’i Shu (C)
SKC – San Kuo Chih (C)
SM – Shih Ming (C)
SS – Sung Shu (C)
TCTC – Tzu Chih T’ung Chien (C)
TNDHT – Thien Nam Du Ha Tap (V)
TT – Dai Viet Su Ky Toan Thu (V)
From thompsonc2@southernct.edu Fri Jun 18 10:44:47 2004
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 14:28:47 -0400
From: C. Michele Thompson <thompsonc2@southernct.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
Dear George,
I know this is my own little pet of sorts but since every
time you mention Vietnamese medicine to anyone from the lady who
sells duck eggs door to door to the top of the academic social scale
they respond with Tue Tinh and Lan Ong I think a selection or two
from their writings would not be amiss.
cheers
Michele
From mchale@gwu.edu Fri Jun 18 10:44:56 2004
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2004 23:30:09 -0100
From: Shawn McHale <mchale@gwu.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
George et al.,
Very good set of readings, it seems to me. But I did have a question: is the series supposed to be about ethnic Vietnamese textual "traditions," or about traditions within Vietnam? If the latter, a whole world of possibilities opens up. Of course, I have no idea what the availability of Cham texts, for example, is, but it would be useful to search some out.
Have you seen Donald Lopez, ed., Buddhism in Practice? It is wonderful because it goes beyond high culture and includes a wide array of texts on Buddhism. I wonder if the same could be done for, say, Vietnam.
If you can include writings by Vietnamese outside Vietnam, how about one of my favorites, Tran Duc Thao, "Sur l'Indochine" (On Indochina) (1946), which I think is perhaps the best bit written by a Vietnamese on the nature of the colonial encounter.
We can all quibble, I am sure, on what to include.
Take these quibbles with a grain of salt! You've made a great start.
Shawn McHale
From Chung.Nguyen@umb.edu Fri Jun 18 10:45:04 2004
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 15:20:12 -0400
From: Chung Nguyen <Chung.Nguyen@umb.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition (Resend)
An impressive list. It will take some study to make a thorough recommendation, esp. in view of the wide-ranging fields involved.
I would second Michele's comment - Tue Tinh/Hai Thuong Lan Ong is a major figure in the history of Vietnamese medicine, not just as a medical doctor but also as a writer and compiler of the first rank. His two works - "Nam Duoc Than Dieu" and Hong Nghia Giac Tu Y Thi" are our only sources of early knowledge of its kind.
Following are some of my initial, off-the cuff and random impressions:
1) The great majority of early Vietnamese history has been written by Confucian scholars, either in their official capcity as scribes of the Court or unofficially as witnesses of the times. Though they were certainly more than qualified, patriotic and skillful, there are undeniable Confucian biases in their recordings. The first example of this is the changing of sex of the 50 children of Lac Long Quan & Au Co who formed the pro-genitors of the Tien Rong people - from female in the original tale to male in the historical account. The Confucian-minded historians could not see how the "weaker sex" could play such an illustrious role.
For this reasons, some of the the earliest Vietnamese tales exemplified in the Linh Nam Trich Quai & Viet Dien U Linh Tap, those that haven't been thoroughly "confucianized" should be included. Nguyen Dong Chi & others have looked into "Chuyen Co Tich Viet nam."
Also for this reasons, something related to the uprisings of Hai Ba Trung, Ba Trieu, & Ly Nam De (the king who, as soon as he regained independence from the Chinese, ordered a pagoda built. He named it "Khai Quoc Tu," (Founding the Nation), its symbolism & significance not to be missed.
That was around 542 AD. Over 4 centuries later, from 1009 to 14XX, the symbolism was fully effected under the reign of the Ly and Tran dynasties. The Confucian ascendency began towards the end of the Tran dynasty, reached its Zenith under Le Thanh Tong, and ever in decline since then. This monopolistic, monolithic courtly ideology led to the over two-hundred-year
North-South war and eventual loss of the country to the French. It's interesting to note that the Nguyen Lords relied on Buddhism to act as a unifying factor in building up their domain in the newly-settled land.
2) Le Manh That has published a series of books on the history of early
Vietnamese Buddhism that provided a wealth of new materials - both in terms of new documents and fresh perpectives vis-a-vis the overly-Confucianized versions of royally-produced records. For example, he has pointed out serious questions re: the famous 4-line poem often atrributed to Marshall Ly Thuong Kiet (hence the 1077 date). He argues that it existed much earlier, and probably written by one of the monk. Because of these many new information, I suggest someone should take a careful look at Le Manh That's works to bring the record up to date.
3) The introduction of Christianity into Vietnam played such a major role in dividing the traditional culture of Vietnam that it requires, I think, some serious attention. What were the reactions of the Vietnamese ? Phan Boi Chau, etc should be quoted.
Nguyen Ba Chung
From paglaicc@hawaii.edu Fri Jun 18 10:45:08 2004
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2004 09:21:41 -1000
From: Gino Paglaiccetti <paglaicc@hawaii.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: RE: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
I am so excited that this project is getting started! It'll be great to have so many of these Sino-Viet texts (rendered in English) in one place!
Here are some of my observations:
1. If this is really about the 'sources' of Vietnamese tradition, then you may consider including parts of the Vietnamese patrimony that have come to be recognized as 'Chinese' (noting that there was no 'China' or 'Vietnam' in the sense of the modern nation-state). If this text is really for undergrads/grads to use, then you may want to consider including portions of major Confucian texts like the shijing, lunyu, daxue, zhongyong, mengzi as well as Zhuxi's commentaries. The Huainanzi (listed below) is a great introduction to East Asian cosmology and a perfect place to introduce ideas of the 5 phases, yin-yang correlative thinking etc.
You absolutely can't miss the Zhuangzi and a portion of the Dao De jing--the aesthetic sensibilities and influence on the 'Vietnamese' tradition are just too critical. And from the number of classical quotations found in Vietnamese poetry, you may consider including the great poems of the major 'Chinese' poets who inspired generations of 'Vietnamese' poets, including Ruan Ji, Tao Yuanming, Wang Wei, Du Fu, Li Bai (who is somewhat canonized in the Viet tradition, after all), and Su Shi. You should also consider including a Tang dynasty chuanqi or two to show a literary model for 'Viet' collections like the Truyen Ky Man Luc and help explain the concept of tinh 'emotions' that occurs passim in traditional 'Vietnamese' literature.
I realize that there may not be a lot of space in this collection, but these are the primary, crucial texts that inspired and aided in forming the Viet cultural trajectory. By analogy, though the Bible wasn't written by Americans, it has certainly been a crucial text in American society. Confucian, Zhuangzian/and poetic quotations occupy a place in traditional Viet society that is comparable to John 3:16 for Americans.
You may also want to consider including at least one text that deals with phong thuy. This is often belittled by academics as a pseudo-science, but to my way of thinking, this tradition is crucially important as it pulls together a coherent way of thinking about the Viet place in the universe, and can be found both in the elite (such as Zhu Xi) and popular traditions. Also, it would be nice to see at least one drama represented.
Lastly, I am not sure that the designation of 'the Southeast Asian era' for the Ly-Tran period nor the 'Confucian Era' for the Le & Mac is the most appropriate. Though it may reflect how the field has characterized these periods, there is very little that articulates a concept of 'Southeast Asia' in Ly-Tran texts and much that reveals Confucian values before the Le-Mac.
Again, this is all so exciting! Much luck to you
Gino
UHawaii
From vannguyenmarshall@trentu.ca Fri Jun 18 10:45:25 2004
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 12:04:27 -0400
From: Van Nguyen-Marshall <vannguyenmarshall@trentu.ca>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
Bravo! I look forward to benefiting from you hard work.
One little suggestion: In the prose section for the colonial period, would something by Nhat Linh or Khai Hung on love, individualism, and social change be just as or more representative of the mood of the era than the more poltical prose of Nguyen Cong Hoan, Ngo Tat To. Even Nguyen Cong Hoan's Dead End was a departure from his lighter satirical works that were not banned and thus had more exposure (one assumes) and on which his reputation was built.
Warm regards,
Van
Van Nguyen-Marshall
Assistant Professor
Department of History
Trent University
Peterborough, ON
Canada K9J 7B8
Tel: (705) 748-1011 ext 5384
Email: vannguyenmarshall@trentu.ca
From bcampdvs@u.washington.edu Fri Jun 18 10:45:41 2004
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 17:07:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: bradley camp davis <bcampdvs@u.washington.edu>
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To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
George:
Tran Van Giau wrote an introduction to a collection of Patriotic Verse from the 1858-1900 period. _Tho Van Yeu Nuoc: nua sau they ky XIX_ It was published in 1976, but there may be newer editions. It has some verse by Nguyen Quang Bich, Ha Tien, and other to^ng ddo^.c / tua^n phu? –level officials that may or may not be of interest.
Best,
Bradley Davis
University of Washington
From dutton@humnet.ucla.edu Fri Jun 18 10:45:49 2004
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 20:35:23 -0700
From: George Dutton <dutton@humnet.ucla.edu>
Reply-To: vsg@u.washington.edu
To: Vietnam Studies Group <vsg@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Sources of Vietnamese Tradition
Dear VSG List,
I want to offer a preliminary thank you to everyone who has so far contributed suggestions and ideas for both specific texts and categories of texts. These will be extremely useful to us as we finalize the list by the end of the summer, even as we continue to wrestle with the space limitations that will force us to cut far more than we would prefer. Thanks also for your encouragement and enthusiasm for this project. We hope it will serve the field of Vietnamese studies, and perhaps even encourage other efforts to produce full-length translations of some of the materials we can only excerpt in these volumes. We will continue to welcome suggestions for further texts or categories on this list or sent directly to us, but I wanted to express our thanks for what has already been offered so far.
Regards,
George
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